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		<title>By: Liz Marchi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz Marchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We agree, it&#039;s unethical to charge entrepreneurs to pitch.  Very good post.  As we continue to build the Montana Angel Network, it&#039;s gratifying to see people who want to invest in their own back yards for a double bottom line return.  
It&#039;s about making money and building meaningful enterprise.
Liz Marchi
Fund Coordinator
Frontier Angel Fund, LLC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We agree, it&#8217;s unethical to charge entrepreneurs to pitch.  Very good post.  As we continue to build the Montana Angel Network, it&#8217;s gratifying to see people who want to invest in their own back yards for a double bottom line return.<br />
It&#8217;s about making money and building meaningful enterprise.<br />
Liz Marchi<br />
Fund Coordinator<br />
Frontier Angel Fund, LLC</p>
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		<title>By: Helping startups land angel funding (San Francisco, March 4th) &#171; The Jason Calacanis Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helping startups land angel funding (San Francisco, March 4th) &#171; The Jason Calacanis Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mark Solon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Solon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You prove once again that there&#039;s many sides to every situation Jay and that many folks have different perspectives when looking at the exact same thing. This is the real value of a comment section of a blog, and you&#039;ve given me some great food for thought. Thanks for weighing in and doing what you do for entrepreneurs... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You prove once again that there&#039;s many sides to every situation Jay and that many folks have different perspectives when looking at the exact same thing. This is the real value of a comment section of a blog, and you&#039;ve given me some great food for thought. Thanks for weighing in and doing what you do for entrepreneurs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Parkhill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Parkhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Keiretsu Forum and other organizations have become so popular they *can* charge companies a lot to present, which doesn&#039;t mean they should.  It is great to see folks trying to recalibrate. 
 
I have one quibble with OAF&#039;s model, which is that the service providers who can afford the $1500 fee need to make that up through time billed to clients.  I.e. the companies still pay the presenter fee- they just pay it over a longer period to their lawyers and accountants.  No free lunch indeed. 
 
And lest I come off as purely altruistic- I am an attorney who has worked with startup companies for my whole career.  I keep expenses low so that I can keep my rates low, and consequently get priced out of events like the Open Angel Forum.  That works for me. 
 
I hope the OAF is a smashing success and spawns loads of great companies.  You won&#8217;t find me there, though.  I will be down the street meeting entrepreneurs over coffee. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Keiretsu Forum and other organizations have become so popular they *can* charge companies a lot to present, which doesn&#039;t mean they should.  It is great to see folks trying to recalibrate. </p>
<p>I have one quibble with OAF&#039;s model, which is that the service providers who can afford the $1500 fee need to make that up through time billed to clients.  I.e. the companies still pay the presenter fee- they just pay it over a longer period to their lawyers and accountants.  No free lunch indeed. </p>
<p>And lest I come off as purely altruistic- I am an attorney who has worked with startup companies for my whole career.  I keep expenses low so that I can keep my rates low, and consequently get priced out of events like the Open Angel Forum.  That works for me. </p>
<p>I hope the OAF is a smashing success and spawns loads of great companies.  You won&rsquo;t find me there, though.  I will be down the street meeting entrepreneurs over coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Solon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Solon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the terrific comments Nathan. Agree with just about everything you say here other than believing that there&#039;s more than a dozen or so small, focused funds. They&#039;re just not on your radar yet. Keep your eyes open and you&#039;ll begin to see more and more of these.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the terrific comments Nathan. Agree with just about everything you say here other than believing that there&#039;s more than a dozen or so small, focused funds. They&#039;re just not on your radar yet. Keep your eyes open and you&#039;ll begin to see more and more of these.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Solon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Solon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Chris and thanks to you for all your hard work in Seattle on this front. Look forward to meeting you soon! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chris and thanks to you for all your hard work in Seattle on this front. Look forward to meeting you soon!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Solon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Solon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Toby. No doubt there&#039;s a sea change brewing. Doesn&#039;t mean the end of larger firms, just that there&#039;s a whole new breed that&#039;s emerged (along with some great angel organizations that don&#039;t charge - Kudos to the Boise Angel Alliance BTW - that&#039;s helping to fill the funding gap. 
 
Keep up the great work Toby. You made a terrific pitch at #OAFCO </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Toby. No doubt there&#039;s a sea change brewing. Doesn&#039;t mean the end of larger firms, just that there&#039;s a whole new breed that&#039;s emerged (along with some great angel organizations that don&#039;t charge &#8211; Kudos to the Boise Angel Alliance BTW &#8211; that&#039;s helping to fill the funding gap. </p>
<p>Keep up the great work Toby. You made a terrific pitch at #OAFCO</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Beckord</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Beckord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great post and captures the core of the changing landscape...this went straight into my bookmark folder.  I&#039;ve been working on a similar thesis for a couple weeks (and to be honest, my title was almost the same-- might need to rework that a bit).  

In a nutshell, I see the very top tier &#039;traditional&#039; VCs (Sequoia, Kleiner, Benchmark, etc.) as having healthy businesses driven by their brands.  Below them you have a few thousand 2nd and 3rd tier &#039;traditional&#039; VCs that are (or will be) facing turbulent waters (what ppl refer to when talking about the &#039;VC model being broken&#039;).   

Then you have a dozen or so small, focused, and usually pretty new VC firms like First Round who have entered with a different model (smaller rounds into startups with nearer-term exit potential) that works better in today&#039;s climate. Marching alongside them you have the &#039;super angels&#039; like Aydin Senkut and Jeff Clavier, as well as things like OAF that are shaking up the seed and angel worlds (in some ways displacing some of the older, established angel groups).  And finally, you have the incubators and alternative funding mechanisms like crowd-funding (e.g. sponsors and pre-sales) that are creating new options, especially for web and digital media co&#039;s.  

Definitely an exciting time as the landscape shifts violently and dramatically...

Anyway, long-winded way of saying, &quot;great post!&quot;     Nathan Beckord</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post and captures the core of the changing landscape&#8230;this went straight into my bookmark folder.  I&#8217;ve been working on a similar thesis for a couple weeks (and to be honest, my title was almost the same&#8211; might need to rework that a bit).  </p>
<p>In a nutshell, I see the very top tier &#8216;traditional&#8217; VCs (Sequoia, Kleiner, Benchmark, etc.) as having healthy businesses driven by their brands.  Below them you have a few thousand 2nd and 3rd tier &#8216;traditional&#8217; VCs that are (or will be) facing turbulent waters (what ppl refer to when talking about the &#8216;VC model being broken&#8217;).   </p>
<p>Then you have a dozen or so small, focused, and usually pretty new VC firms like First Round who have entered with a different model (smaller rounds into startups with nearer-term exit potential) that works better in today&#8217;s climate. Marching alongside them you have the &#8216;super angels&#8217; like Aydin Senkut and Jeff Clavier, as well as things like OAF that are shaking up the seed and angel worlds (in some ways displacing some of the older, established angel groups).  And finally, you have the incubators and alternative funding mechanisms like crowd-funding (e.g. sponsors and pre-sales) that are creating new options, especially for web and digital media co&#8217;s.  </p>
<p>Definitely an exciting time as the landscape shifts violently and dramatically&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, long-winded way of saying, &#8220;great post!&#8221;     Nathan Beckord</p>
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		<title>By: Chris DeVore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris DeVore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome post, Mark - right on. Andy came back from OAF raving about the group and the energy - we&#039;re super-stoked to help drive this vision up here in the Pacific Northwest. Let&#039;s make it so! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome post, Mark &#8211; right on. Andy came back from OAF raving about the group and the energy &#8211; we&#039;re super-stoked to help drive this vision up here in the Pacific Northwest. Let&#039;s make it so!</p>
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		<title>By: Toby Murdock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toby Murdock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>couldn&#039;t agree w/ you more (as my post also talked about).  
 
your industry is really in the midst of a transformation. in fact, just today i came &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.robgo.org/post/376467064/the-hottest-vc-no-one-has-ever-heard-of#comment-32962632&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; across this debate &lt;/a&gt; in the comments of a post about the emergence of micro VC&#039;s.  
 
who&#039;s going to win? i agree w/ you (or D. McClure): just like in technology, you should always put your $$$ on the disruptor.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>couldn&#039;t agree w/ you more (as my post also talked about).  </p>
<p>your industry is really in the midst of a transformation. in fact, just today i came <a href="http://www.robgo.org/post/376467064/the-hottest-vc-no-one-has-ever-heard-of#comment-32962632"  target="_blank"> across this debate </a> in the comments of a post about the emergence of micro VC&#039;s.  </p>
<p>who&#039;s going to win? i agree w/ you (or D. McClure): just like in technology, you should always put your $$$ on the disruptor.</p>
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